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quences which the imaginations of certain men, who are ever hated on thofe fubjects, fhould entertain or endeavour to infufe into the minds of others.

As the head of a Proteftant feminary, I fhall think myself as much bound to fupport the church of Ireland as if I had the, honour of being a bifhop; but I am convinced in my judgment, that the relief of the Roman Catholics would give additional ftrength to both church and ftate by removing religious prejudices. I have been ever their advocate, and fhall continue to be fo while their requifitions are reafonable. I have always recommended it to them to look up to the royal protection. All the favours they have received have proved that my advice was well founded: and I have never failed to recommend it to government to attach fuch a great portion of our fellow-fubjects to the crown by every proper act of favour and conceffion. I truft they will now receive the protection of thofe concerned in his Majefty's government, if it fhould be otherwife, which I have no reafon to believe, I fhall be in this particular under the neceffity of going against government.

I approved of the addrefs as far as it went; but think it does not go far enough. Whenever the crown has thought proper to recommend any measure to parliament, it has been the constant mode of parliamentary proceedings to return the king thanks for his interpofition. There never was an interpofition that called for the grateful acknowledgments of parliament more than the prefent. It has been alfo ufual to add, that the

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House will take the fubject into its immediate confideration; fome words to that effect fhould be now added. It will be alfo It will be also proper that this addrefs fhould inform the Roman Catholics of this kingdom how highly they are indebted to their fovereign, and that this conciliatory measure had proceeded from his gracious interpofition.

An amendment had been propofed to this effect, with which I entirely agree; the objection to the words religious animofity, contained in it, does not appear to me to have weight; but fuch as it was, might be eafily obviated, by changing those words into the following, which is really the fact, political differences arifing from religion,

Rt. Hon. W. B. Conyngham-Sir, though many obfervations have been made in the courfe of the preceding day, moft of which I intended to take notice of in the time that the feveral fubjects. fhould come before the Houfe; yet as every member who had delivered his fentiments had avowed his determination to fupport the conftitution in king, lords, and commons, and the neceffity of ftrengthening his majesty's government, at a crisis when foreign enemies were likely to add to those internal ones, who had endeavoured to fap the foundation of the conftitution by their feditious proceedings, I fhould not have troubled the Houfe, as I truft my attachment to the king and constitution were well known, had not the gentlemen, in the general obloquy of the adminiftration they were anxious to villify, involved the most useful clafs of the people of this country that clafs who know the fentiments,, and feel the real interefts of the people of Ireland-the

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refident gentlemen of the country, who attend the affizes, and are ufually members of the feveral grand juries.

Gentlemen who had fo properly painted the critical fituation of the kingdom, and the neceffity of promoting every plan of conciliating the minds of the inhabitants of different perfuafions, had taken a strange method to effect that plan by mifrepresenting the intentions of the refolutions that were entered into laft fummer by the feveral fheriffs and grand juries of the kingdom, and charging those refpectable bodies, as the dependants of what they call a profligate adminiftration. Gentlemen fhould know a little of the country of Ireland, before they take upon them to cenfure thofe who are her best friends, those are the refident country gentlemen. It is not by fpending their time near the capital, never giving any attention to their tenantry in the country, or taking their fhare in the duties of country gentlemen, that they can be judges of their fentiments. Certainly many of them have merit in exercifing their abilities in fupport of the conftitution, but are totally ignorant of the country. If they fhould attend those grand juries, they would know the real fentiments of the people of Ireland; they would know they are not dictated to, and they would know that thofe country gentlemen poffefs that honeft jealoufy that would fpurn with indignation at fuch ministerial propofitions. I entreat gentlemen not to aggravate any jealoufies that might have arifen, which would be as fatal as for the crew of a fhip in the midst of the ftorm, inftead of uniting to fave the veffel, to revive their private animofities, and charge the captain with his paft cruelty and ill ufage.

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I believe, Sir, the best refutation is to ftate facts that came to my knowledge, that I had been in the north of Ireland at the time that I received the first notice of Mr. Byrne's circular letter. The plan recommended was fecretly attempted in that part of the country, and copies of Mr. Byrne's letter having been printed at Derry, by order of a Roman Catholic Prieft, they fell into the hands of the mayor, and the gentlemen of that city being very much alarmed at the arguments made use of by Mr. Byrne, fimilar to thofe of the friends of the French revolution, and hearing that the plan was fecretly attempted to form a convention fimilar to the national convention of France, advised the chief magiftrate to communicate the intelligence to government. I was informed that the answer given to that magiftrate was that government could not at that time give any advice as to what was proper to be done.

This tranfaction happened a very few days preceding the affizes where the refolutions were paffed. I again advert to the imprudence of fomenting jealoufies between the refident proteftant gentlemen of Ireland and their Roman catholic brethren, with whom they lived in the greateft cordiality, though they might differ in political opinions. Sir, I think it would be wife to look to fome acts in the courfe of the feffion, that should come home to the feeling of the people. I applaud the idea of a tax on abfentees, though not favourably commented on by a former fpeaker. I have endeavoured, formerly when introduced into this house, to give it my warmeft fupport, but I think it fhould be applied in a different manner from what was the intention of the former promoters of it.

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From my knowledge of most parts of Ireland, there was a vifible difference in the face of the country where the lands were in their poffeffion, from that which enjoyed the influence of the refident proprietor. The encouragement given to industry, the influence of the circulation of wealth, the protection afforded to the tenantry by the refident landlord, were every where vifible, and by long obfervation, I am convinced, that the tumults which have taken place in Ireland in various parts, within my memory, have moftly originated on the eftates of abfentees. I think, therefore, it was by no means unreasonable, that in fuch parts of the country where the industrious tenants enjoyed no benefit from the reflux or circulation of that wealth which was furnished to the proprietor, a small share of that wealth fhould be appropriated to the alleviation of the local taxes of fuch tenantry, and which tax ultimately tended to the to the improvement of the eftate that paid it. I fhould therefore propofe, that the tax fhould be appropriated to eafe the country taxes when raifed; and that I will fupport any measure of the kind which fhould be introduced into the house, as a measure highly beneficial to the induftrious part of the community.

The Solicitor General (Mr. J. Toler).-As to the rejecting the Catholic petition by the Commons in the laft feffion, the Rt. Hon. gentleman (Mr. Grattan) would be pleased to recollect that the propofition to reject it was moved by a particular friend of his own, and that the qualified manner in which that propofition was acceded to, amounted to a refiftance of the principle that the future difcuffion of the fubject should be precluded;

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